Hello and welcome to this LH segment equipped with the old J cabin. Below is the schedule of all the flights that I have taken so far.
AC SFO-YVR in Y - http://flight-report.com/en/report-7109.html
LH YVR-MUC in J - http://flight-report.com/en/report-7137.html
TK MUC-SAW in J - http://flight-report.com/en/report-7151.html
TK IST-TXL in Y - http://flight-report.com/en/report-7155.html
TK TXL-IST in Y - http://flight-report.com/en/report-7164.html
TK SAW-FRA in J - http://flight-report.com/en/report-7201.html
LH FRA-ORD in J - you are here
UA ORD-SFO in Y - http://flight-report.com/en/report-7263.html
LH 432 FRA-ORD
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Once I arrived in FRA I made my way to the LH connection desk and had a new boarding pass reissued by a friendly agent. I then asked for the location of the AC Maple Leaf lounge and was advised that I had to clear security in order to get to the other side. I placed myself in line and there was only one person ahead of me so cleared quickly.
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I then followed the signs to the lounge which was located within steps from where I was standing. Its exact location is T1 Dept. area B.
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I have read about this new lounge before I embarked on this trip and was looking forward to visiting it during my connection in FRA. It was supposed to be a showcase of the artistic talent, contemporary design and natural beauty of Canada according to its description on AC's website. First impression upon entering was good. The wooden fixtures and the light gave the impression of vastness and open space. In addition the earthly tones provided a soothing ambiance that imparted warmth and made the reception area inviting.
AC Maple Leaf lounge entrance.
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I approached the desk and the agent was in the middle of a call, so I waited patiently. Once she finished, she greeted me with a cheerful smile welcoming me to the lounge. I presented my boarding pass and inquired about using the shower. She invited me to proceed behind the desk and said that there was no one waiting, so I was welcome to use it right away.
There are two shower rooms labeled YYZ and YUL, in honor of AC's hubs. I chose YUL and settled into the spacious bathroom.
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Bathroom.
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The shower was invigorating and felt extremely nice. I really enjoyed using this bathroom and thought it was spacious and well appointed. Now I was ready to explore the rest of the lounge.
Buffet.
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Beverage area.
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The dining area.
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Long table with electrical sockets to charge your electronics.
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There was a central square area with booth seating surrounding a design that was suggestive of a fireplace.
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Quiet zone featuring six resting pods equipped with noise cancelling headphones, USB ports and TV screens.
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My selection.
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I was glad that I stopped by this lounge and had the opportunity to experience it. All the staff that I encountered, from the receptionist to the attendants that were in charge of replenishing the buffet, were friendly and smiling. The lounge was not busy and had plenty of room. One could find a private corner and just stay there relaxing. The lounge also offered some good plane spotting and I stayed closed to the buffet area taking some shots.
Views from the lounge.
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I still wanted to check out the LH Business lounge and quickly returned to the gate area. This time I did not have to clear security and just passed through a set of automatic doors. I remember a long walk and then taking a train to the Z gates. My flight left from Z50 and I wanted to use the lounge that was closest to it. I went through a second screening and then security at the Z area. Finally I entered the lounge and presented my boarding pass. I unknowingly went to the right side where the Senator lounge was located and the lobby agent called my attention telling me that the Business lounge was up the escalators on the left side.
View of tarmac while walking.
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Riding the train to the Z gates.
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At the Z gates.
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The LH Business lounge was a stark contrast to the serene AC one. The first thing I noticed was its huge size. There were some areas that were very crowded, especially in the front. The back had more empty seats. Another thing that annoyed me was the congestion of people around the buffet area. They looked like vultures circling around a carcass waiting in anticipation for the next load of hot food. Of course, at this rate, the attendants had to make multiple trips. I guess the beast comes out when people are hungry.
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Area in the back.
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Buffet.
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Beverages.
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I then left for the gate which was very close by. Once there I found a cabinet with newspapers.
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My plane at the gate.
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There were about 4 agents working at the gate. I wanted to see how full the flight was and checked with one of the ladies who told me that it was full. She was pleasant and smiling, which is rare for gate agents, at least in the U.S. where they are usually understaffed and have to deal with a million requests at the last minute. So kudos to LH ground crew @ FRA for maintaining a professional composure while under stress.
At about 1635 boarding started and a few minutes before that an agent gathered the people in wheelchairs and families with children in one corner and allowed them to go first. Walking down the jetbridge, there was a separate entrance for F/J and Y passengers. This is one of the things that LH does well and they seem to be consistent with their boarding priorities, at least on long haul flights.
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I was greeted at the door by a smiling FA and was one of the first ones to enter the forward section of the plane. I specially chose this section of the plane because it truly made me feel that I was on a 747. The forward cabin by the nose and upper decks are trademarks of this plane.
The cabin.
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This nice FA saw me board and put my bags in the overhead bin. She quickly came asking me if I needed assistance.
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Seat controls and amenity kits with bottles of water placed next to the seats.
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Pre-departure drinks were offered consisting of water, orange juice or champagne.
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There was a welcome message on the screen and the seat pockets were quite useless because of their hard shell. It was really difficult to store any bulky or oddly shaped items. Good thing that these seats are being phased out.
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LH announced on their website that on long haul flights out of Germany in J, they would feature a special World Cup theme amenity kit. As you can see, this was not the case on today's flight.
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FA's were helping passengers settle by storing coats in the front closet and offering drinks. The captain introduced himself and gave us some information about our destination. The doors were finally closed and we taxied to the runway for take off. There was some great airplane spotting with a LH A380 ahead of us. However, I did not have a window seat and couldn't take any pictures.
This was the best that I managed to do under the restrictive circumstances.
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After take off the service started with the distribution of hot towels that were flimsy and reminded me of the ones that U.S. carriers offer.
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Followed by the menus featuring chef Stromberg from the German national football team. Here is what's for dinner and snack.
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Wine menu
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The beverage carts made their way into the cabin signaling the start of the meal service. I had a mango passonfruit with sparkling water.
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Appetizer - honey gratinated Picandou (mild goat cheese) with vegetables and papaya.
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Salad with Balsamic dressing. Why even bother with this tiny portion of wilted greens.
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I had a glass of Riesling and water with this course. Breads were offered twice which was nice.
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At least the salt and pepper shakers were more fitting for this cabin.
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For the main dish I chose the tenderloin of veal with white asparagus and parsley potatoes. White asparagus were in season and you saw them everywhere. The portion was small and the FA asked me if I wanted melted butter and freshly ground pepper to which I replied yes.
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It was nice that a beverage cart immediately followed the meal cart, refreshing beverages choices along the way.
Afterwards the dessert cart was rolled out and I asked for the rice pudding accompanied by fresh fruit salad.
Dessert cart being simultaneously offered on the other side.
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Meanwhile on my side…
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I can't help but compare this rice pudding with the TK version, which was more appealing.
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I requested a cup of fruit tea and the FA added a box of chocolates.
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Cabin after the meal service with a tray of water and juices. Later during the flight a FA passed several times offering drinks and chocolates. It seems that chocolates are quite popular as a snack on LH.
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Eventually lights were turned off and window shades closed. My neighbor decided to get some sleep and he was trying to get comfortable by turning and tossing.
My neighbor at the beginning (this was the only pic that took out of consideration). Throughout his rest I saw him sleeping on the side, then facing down, and finally back to his original position. How on earth can someone sleep on this seat? I tried but couldn't really get a restful sleep. At one point I thought I was dreaming and in the middle of Vertigo the movie.
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There was a magazine rack by my seat but most of the publications were in German, so I just grabbed a few for their pictures.
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WC's. There are two located right behind my seat in the galley area. Since they are in the middle of the cabin, they were compact and of course lacking a view.
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Got to love the sink with sensors.
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As we approached ORD, the snack service started about 1.5 hrs. before arrival with distribution of hot thick towels this time. There was no choice and it consisted of a soup and salad combination. A healthy snack, right? Not.
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The small salad with soggy croutons. Instead of buttermilk dressing we were given a lime-yogurt one. Yuck!
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BOUM! No, this is not the song by Charles Trenet, but the visual presentation of the currywurst with an exploding sauce effect on the small dish (à la AF). I had a few bites and left the rest. The sauce was more hot than spicy.
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The best part of the snack, although it was also small and somewhat dry.
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The landing into ORD was nice with great views of the city. Unfortunately I did not have a window seat so this is all that I managed to take.
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Immigration was quick and for the first time all U.S. citizens were directed to use self serving kiosks that were quickly verified by an agent. Once I exited I went to the ORD Hyatt Regency and called for a shuttle to pick me up. I was looking forward to a nice shower and a proper rest.
Thanks for that great product. That seat is everything but a J class seat, it looks awful and you seat awful.
The catering, while looking very tempting for the first service, looks disguting for the second service.
Sorry, I meant report, not product :)
No worries. The snack was one of the worst meals that I have seen flying in a premium cabin. It's up there with my UA LAX-NRT meal in J - a failed interpretation of a Chinese dish with pork, lo mein an sweet plum sauce.
Thanks for sharing this comprehensive FR
Le salon feuille d'érable looks nice even if the food offer is quite average regarding the quality
It seems to have plenty of space, a quiet zone and friendly attendants
LH Business lounge is less appealing but still way above any north american lounge
Nice spotting
Waow how lucky you are being able to find a pleasant LH gate agent in FRA : it was never possible for me
I remember this cabin in a former life, no I'm joking ;)
Pre-departure drinks were offered consisting of water, orange juice or champagne.
Certainly Sekt not champagne
they would feature a special World Cup theme amenity kit
To my eyes it could be a Fanhansa(how stupid motto) amenity kit
BTW KL651 will be jealous that you received all these great cosmetics made in Germany
You certainly like the sweet and salty dish by choosing this appetizer !
The salmon would have been my choice
Nothing yummy for the main :(
With LH you have the choice between footsie, footsie and Vertigo but that's always an entertainment
The snack is awful !
How was the IFE ?
At least you had friendly and efficient FAs
See you soon for your next leg
Le salon feuille d'érable looks nice even if the food offer is quite average regarding the quality
You should try it next time you are in FRA. I've heard that the food is better durin breakfast time. I wasn't there earlier enough to confirm that.
LH Business lounge is less appealing but still way above any north american lounge
It's not that hard to surpass the average U.S. domestic lounge. I think some of the F lounges and the Virgin Atlantic ones are the rare exceptions.
Waow how lucky you are being able to find a pleasant LH gate agent in FRA : it was never possible for me
Maybe it's my charm. You should know better. ;)
I remember this cabin in a former life, no I'm joking ;)
You seemed very familiar when I met you the first time. :P
Certainly Sekt not champagne
You are probably right, as usual. ;)
BTW KL651 will be jealous that you received all these great cosmetics made in Germany
No need to be, he can have all of them. I have my Clarins supply.
You certainly like the sweet and salty dish by choosing this appetizer !
The salmon would have been my choice
I thought about the salmon, but did not want to repeat the asparagus again. I'm considerate and did not want to stink the WC's. :P
Nothing yummy for the main :(
LH should allow people in premium cabins to pre-order their meals. That would really be nonstop you.
With LH you have the choice between footsie, footsie and Vertigo but that's always an entertainment
It would be even more entertaining if you play footsie-footsie with the wrong person.
The snack is awful !
BOUM! no comments.
How was the IFE ?
I didn't use it much, but the small screen was disappointing.
Thank you for this great report.
Some English to French translations in the AC Maple Leaf lounge are pretty funny (Caesar spread --> Caesar propagation for ex)^^.
Perhaps they used Google translator ;)
Thank you for sharing.
This is an average LH Flight, with the old Star Trek seat and a rather poor catering.
German gastronomy isn't known to be the best in Europe (we even have a joke about that), and the Currywurst you got makes no exception. Lol
For a culture that values precision and consistency, LH sure has a few surprises.
That currywurst was nothing compared to the one I had in Berlin. German cuisine is hearty, yet that aspect is sometimes missing on LH meals. Are those who joke about German gastronomy mostly French? ;)
By the way, have you come across this commercial from LH?
http://www.youtube.com/watch'v=iwSbJnmyURA
Thanks for this nice FR.
Again, a not fully satisfying flight with LH. Some items on the menu did look good though.
The new amenity kit is pretty nice, with German products (Nivea and Labello) and I like the pouch.
Adan should have asked you to translate Gala into english ^^
Now I am curious. :P
The kit is the maritime theme from a few months ago. All we need is a sailor. ;)
All looked like a fine trip with that awesome AC lounge. I sometimes feel shame for LH for their bloopers, the hardware not being up to expectations or catering being cheap or poorly presented...the crew seemed really nice, and that is I guess one of their biggest assets.
Its a shame that you didn't get to score a window seat, I bet the views of Chi-town whilst landing were awesome.
Thanks for sharing this nice FR, Saludos!
I am usually an aisle person but will take a window if I can easily get out without disturbing my neighbor.
Ever since I became a member of FR, I see the value of having a window seat for spotting and aerial shots. ;)
FRA can be great for spotting, especially when the aircraft is taxiing.
Thank you for this FR Adan.
The new Air Canada Lounge seems to be pretty nice and I particularly like the pictograms on the shower doors.
Long haul Business seats on LH really are outdated.
The first tray is well presented, whereas the snack service just looks like an economy tray with business class dishes, this is clearly unacceptable.
Thanks for sharing. I looked at your pictures of berlin on facebook. I like them :-)
Glad you liked those pics. Those are the kosher ones. ;)
The AC lounge in FRA is worth a detour in my opinion and if you have a long layover, just visit them. If anything, the sense of serenity and less crowded environment should be enough incentives in my humble opinion.
Great report! Nice pics of lounge hopping and planespotting! It must have been rough going back to the old slip n' slide seats after trying the new full-flats on the way over to Europe. And the catering is still nothing to write home about. Yet it seems that it was a pleasant flight in general and that's the most important thing!
Indeed it was hard to go back to a less desirable seat, but since this was a daytime flight the transition was less painful.
A good cabin crew makes all the difference and I had a decent one on this flight.
After having experienced AC new FRA lounge, it could be said you turned a new leaf in lounge atmosphere :).
Catering is dictated by how many paying passengers are in the premium cabins. The more a particular route fills with upgrades the more challenging the selection on board. You may also notice because the crew is specially friendlier when the passenger manifesto lists more full revenue passengers.
Gracias por transportarme a tu mundo de viajes!
Al contrario, gracias por tu visita la cual siempre es placentera.
Ideally crew should always be friendly, especially in a premium cabin regardless of the number of full revenue passengers. Of course reality is often completely different.
It was quite a contrast between the AC and LH lounges. However, I find that the most disappointing lounges are operated by third parties or contracted ones (with few exceptions).